03.12.08
SK: Mind control update
Comment from sillykitty on SK: Sufi hyenas and mysticism, an exit strategy.
We have lost the thread of our mind control discussion.
You did a good thing here by bringing up the subject of mindcontrol: unwittingly it turned out to be a preparation for the appearance of Naomi Klein’s The Shock Doctrine, with its depiction of the way the very material we were discussing has filtered through the shadows of government into the forms of stealth tactics. I hope you get to read the book.
The question of ‘mind control’, as we determined, tends to downshift toward lunatic fringe conspiracy theories, when the real issue for us is the very real ’something we wouldn’t quite call mind control’ at work on various levels in the various cults and gurus. At the level of cults it is one thing, in the world of real occultists an altogether malevolent situation.
With a figure like e j gold and various shadow sufis the dangers here are very considerable indeed.
EJ Gold makes me think of Spitzer, now in the news. Why would someone with such talents just at the point of being a real teacher turn to such hurtful tactics with people who are foolish enough to trust him?
I hope you are safe behind your disguises. It is not a question of fun dabbling in mysticism, but of maintaining sanity as the spiritual front generates disillusion.
I think it is time to tackle the Gurdjieff material to generate a warning to those still at risk in the immense proliferation of all that, …
sillykitty said,
March 12, 2008 at 9:24 pm
the comparison with spitzer is interesting. as if any preoccupation with ‘cleansing’ people/ societies, of their ’sins,’ tends to double back on the cleaner, diabolically. i remember hearing andrew cohen say in a talk that he had no shadow–that the enlightened man HAS NO shadow. the danger stems from that assumption?
nemo said,
March 13, 2008 at 5:53 pm
One big difference, Spitzer got caught.
sillykitty said,
March 17, 2008 at 12:57 pm
e.j. got caught too.
“some say we shall never know, and that to the gods we are like flies that the boys kill on a summer day, and some say, on the contrary, that the very sparrows do not lose a feather that has not been brushed away by the finger of God.”
–thorton wilder, bridge of san luis rey