07.20.09

Islam, Protestantism, and secularism

Posted in Islam, secularism at 6:20 pm by nemo

Comment on Conservative Confusion of Western Civilization….

James said,
July 20, 2009 at 5:53 pm ·
” Islam has exactly the potential that emerged with Protestantism from Catholicism to be a secular religious matrix in the context of modernization. In fact, it might be too fair to hope for such an outcome in what seems a religious culture stuck in the past.”

Actually, I hope the Islamic world doesn’t have to go through what Europe had to go through to overthrow its theocracy. Who wants to see a Thirty Years War carried out with modern weapons?

I share your hope, but it is important to see that history never quite repeats itself, and the unique moment of the early modern whence appeared Protestantism won’t occur again (as a study of the eonic effect will make obvious), so what will happen with Islam is unknown. From what we have seen so far it will be much much worse than the Thirty Years War, centuries of conflict, the destruction of Europe, the Israel, Oil, imperial, and other issues.
The confusion has already taken up most of the twentieth century. So I don’t know what to suggest.
Speaking from my own experience, however, a threshold has been crossed as the confusion over Sufism has been exposed, and is not likely to reoccur. In the name of multiculturalism, an immense and false mystique about Islam has arisen, and is about to collapse as Sufism is seen as a Big Con on the level of a super-scientology of ancient gnosticism. Once these advertisements for the superiority of Islam as a culture are played out, the secularization of Islam (for many more reasons that this example) might well occur very rapidly.
It might help if the postmodern fad could get dumped into the trash bin, and if marxists on the so-called left could get their head out of their….

It can also help to consider what secularism means. Iraq lost its secular triumph and wasted a generation on Shaddam Hussein’s fixation on Stalin’s brand of what was the ’secular’(!!!!).

You can declare what you wish, and the results can be surprising.
But, actually, Iraq was there a generation ago, and is now being destroyed in a mini ‘thirty years war’ mixed with imperialism, and the oil great game.

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