10.19.10
More on AIT/OIT
I reply to a comment from Richard on the Aryan Invasion theory. I find the question decided in my own mind after considerable delay in what should have been obvious thirty years ago, but has since become almost totally muddled in the attempts to remake a new reigning dogma by the rules of ‘polical (in)correctness’, making Hinduism safe for the Brahmin caste. We shouldn’t let that happen. The whole thing news to find its real roots.
The strategy should be obvious: the whole tradition of caste is a foreign graft on the Indic tradition. That forces a lot of people back to the wall. A lot.
As I look back, I feel angry at the thirty lost years been fooled by this Brahmanistic hype. And it is all unnecessary for realizing the true and great Indian tradition.
The historian Danielou clearly showed the way out, speaking I am sure for many Indians who remain silent. Check out his history of India, which should also be taken with discretion.
It makes no sense at all to derive Buddhism from the Vedic stream. The analysis of Danielou shows the obvious: Buddhism is a direct descendant of the Jain stream which, in parallel with primordial Shavism, goes back thousands of years.
For years I was indifferent on this question, generally accepting the view of Indian history that puts Vedism at the top. But the problem with explaining Buddhism, even at this time, always stuck in my mind. You can see the half-way point in the first edition of WHEE, where I nonetheless began to reconsider certain things.
Some writers want to claim here that Indo-European influences go back thousands of years in India, but that case, while theoretically possible, has no good evidence in its favor. It a fake hypothesis based on desperation.
These OIT people can’t see to face the obvious, e.g. the case of Indo-European Greece and the invasions there.
We need to understand the way the Aryans coopted the Indian Tradition, to see the game happening again as Western monotheists try to coopt the New Age Indian religions for a local brand.
Indian gurus are more and more afraid to even set foot in the West, making the new brands of coopted sadhana the only option.
A fake substitute is on the way, witness the intimidated behavior of the Dalai Lama, who hardly even speaks about Buddhism any more.
We need a restored Indian tradition that is honest and stripped of the Aryan domination game that took it over. And be wary of the same happening in the west as secularists and monotheists try to version their fake brands.
nemo said,
October 19, 2010 at 11:03 am ·
I have gone ovver and over this question, and, while I can’t fully resolve the issues, I think that the new attempts to discredit the AIT are wrong. The critics can’t get it straight, and it isn’t as if this was a Eurocentric invention: consider the views of a true traditionalist like the Jain Rajneesh who scoffed at this new brand when it started a generation ago
There could be problems with the AIT, to be sure, and maybe there was no invasion, but something essentially the same, but the attempt to reverse gear here with OIT is transparent propaganda trying to protect the phantom Hindusim that replace the primordial Indic tradition.
I think Indians should wise up and not let this issue destroy their great tradition. The Hindu wrapper is a superficial thing anyway, the main issues are deeper.
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