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Buddhism and Hinduism

June 4th, 2011 · 1 Comment

This is my reply to a comment on the connection between Hinduism (so-called) and Buddhism, with respect to Vedism. But Vedism is a red-herring. And Buddhism is not a reform movement of Hinduism, but a direct revival/continuation of Jainism, and the greater Indic tradition.

nemonemini@aol.com Submitted on 2011/06/04 at 6:10 am | In reply to star.
Richard and I disagree on this (maybe), but the question of Vedic Hinduism is a red herring here. We have had many discussions of the Danielou thesis on the greater Indic tradition, next to the debates over the confusions of the Aryan invasion theory, versus the Out of India theory. I think that the only way to make sense of Indian spirituality is to see beyond the Vedas to the greater Shaivite and Jain traditions going back many thousands of years before the Aryan invasion. The issues of reincarnation are then part of that greater Indic stream, a point that should be obvious from seeing the relation of Jainism to buddhism.
Hinduism is simply a set of confusions (many modern, along with the term). A closer look at the ‘Hindu’ milieu shows the reality, or many realities in a complex history that noone can seem to tell. But the issue of reincarnation is very much older than Vedism.

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  • 1 nemo // Jun 16, 2011 at 11:16 am

    I will write something on this today: the issue of Jainism is confusing because the ‘religion’ that arose after Mahavira (the last in a great line) was totally different from what came before. The real Jainism was essentially frozen in place.
    The issue of secular buddhism doesn’t require a stance on this, but I persist in recommending the ‘long view’ of the Indic tradition: it is hard to see such an abrupt start in the tradition under the rubric of Hinduism. More later.

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