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Posted in Booknotes at 10:31 am by nemo
I just wrote an initial take on Bellah’s new book Religion in Human Evolution. I promised to return to the review (if Amazon posts it) for upgrades over time. But I wanted to make an initial appraisal given the clear suspicion Bellah is being ‘bashful’ about Darwinism. I cannot figure out his views of Darwinism, which puts the whole book on hold, up in the air. A fascinating book in any case.
Repost: Bellah book
4.0 out of 5 stars Evolution and the Axial Age enigma, August 29, 2011
By John C. Landon “nemonemini” (New York City) – See all my reviews
(TOP 500 REVIEWER) Amazon Verified Purchase(What’s this?)
This review is from: Religion in Human Evolution: From the Paleolithic to the Axial Age (Hardcover)
This is a massive book I am still studying, one filled with some novel perspectives, among them that rarity: scholarly acknowledgment of the existence of the Axial Age. There is so much that is of fascinating interest that one could/should resolve to spend a good period of time going over the rich details. But there is an instant problem here. For better or for worse, if you mention ‘evolution’ and the ‘Axial Age’ in one breath, it is easy to close in for the ‘kill’ if author’s motives are murky and/or he is too ‘scare d cat’ to challenge Darwin. So for that reason, suspicions aroused, I can easily begin a preliminary review of the overall aspect of the book, a review to be revised and extended perhaps.
The book deserves commendation for even mentioning this data on the Axial Age. And it is good to raise the issue, but fatal also. As most scholarly propagandists probably realize, to even mention the subject means the jig is up, make as many mistakes as you wish, but the data will come to demand a real analysis, one that will endanger current paradigms. So in that sense I praise this fine book for its lesser audacity: the jig is up, and it is only a matter of time before the question of the Axial Age and its revolutionary implications become clear.
I could be wrong. Karen Armstrong almost succeeded in completely asphiaxiating this topic, and as a result the jig wasn’t up.
It is almost taboo to even refer to this phenomenon. But unfortunately, as with Karen Armstrong’s The Great Transformation, one is reminded of the classic barb: ‘we have not come to praise Caesar, but to bury him’. The scholarly community, if it can’t suppress this data, will absorb it into something that will confuse it completely, as with Karen Armstrong’s book, a tour de force that summoned up the ‘Axial Age’ and left the subject beyond recognition.
Bellah’s book seems like a more sophisticated version of this tactic. Is this fair?
The first question must be, has Bellah perused John Landon’s book World History And the Eonic Effect: Civilization, Darwinism, and Theories of Evolution Fourth Edition and resolved to produce his own take and/or save the world from that underground text, and without any reference to it (and such reference being the end of one’s public reputation)? It is hard to believe the author is not aware of, and wary of, that book with its comprehensive view of the Axial Age. Which book demands a larger pattern of ‘axial ages’, a new view of historical evolution, evolution in history, and thence of the descent of man, and, yes, the ‘evolution’ of religion, which is not Darwinian. The Axial Age shows us precisely the kind of ‘macrovevolutionary’ process at work in both the evolution of religion and of civilization. You cannot compromise with Darwinism once you grasp what is happening with the Axial Age.
And this makes us ask, what is Bellah’s take on Darwinism? Examine this book and you will have a hard time knowing where Bellah stands on the question of Darwin’s theory: plus and minus are most cleverly braided together in one unified sophistry of scholarly legerdemain, far more polished than Karen Armstrong’s idiotic venture here.
I can see Bellah’s problem: evolutionary psychology is a hopeless mess on religion, but to say so is risky, and indirect methods are required. I can’t really determine his stance (there is even a reference to natural selection, which is fogged out), and that is unfortunate, because the suggestion is still left that in the final analysis the Axial Age is just a smorgasbord of cuteness, not the real insight into global teleological macroevolution that the data demands.
That’s thrown out as a caution as I continue to study the book, which is well worth reading, and which has many interesting takes. Unlike too many books on the Axial period, this one gives a real discussion of the Greek Axial, not shunting it to one side in a kind of ‘generalized age of revelation’ treatment of religion.
The real Axial Age is an elusive totalizing process that rises beyond religion to the whole question of civilization, and from there to the question of evolution as such. The data must force us to suspect that Darwinism is totally off the mark, and that real ‘evolution’ shows this kind of discontinuous near planetary top-down process that operates metagenetically. That is the kind of heresy that drives people to cover up what the Axial Age is showing us.
In the nonce, as I study this book further, it must be seen as a remarkable innovation (beyond that of WHEE already cited) attempting to do justice the original insights of Karl Jaspers (who did not however seem to understand his own book on the Axial period). No doubt the impudence of Bellah in writing a book on the Axial period will cause the book to be ignored. We will see. In the worst case it will join the underground of post-Jasperian historiographies.
Let me say that harsh judgments here can be unfair. Grasping the Axial Age is NOT easy, and requires a new mode of thought. Bellah goes part way here, what more can we expect?
Much more to be said here: we can continue the discussion over time.
John Landon
World History and The Eonic Effect
Civilization, Darwinism, and Theories of Evolution.
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Posted in Evolution at 10:27 am by nemo
Neanderthal survival story revealed in Jersey caves
New investigations at an iconic cave site on the Channel Island of Jersey have led archaeologists to believe the Neanderthals have been widely under-estimated.
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Posted in General at 10:19 am by nemo
Rick Perry’s God
By CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS – SLATE
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Posted in Evolution, Science & Religion at 10:16 am by nemo
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/someone_has_taken_the_coulter.php?utm_source=mostactive&utm_medium=link
It is disastrous for naive Darwinists (and liberals) to hand Coulter an easy debate over Darwinian evolution. And it is equally disastrous to suggest that Darwinism is a liberal idea, when in fact it is a conservative social darwinist mess, one that conservative ID-ists are thrilled to land on the heads of confused liberals.
Someone has taken the Coulter Challenge!
Category: Creationism • Evolution
Posted on: August 29, 2011 12:21 PM, by PZ Myers
It only took five years. Remember, my Coulter Challenge was for someone to take any of Coulter’s paragraphs about evolution from her book Godless, and cogently defend its accuracy. It’s been surprising how few takers there have been: lots of wingnuts have praised the book and said it is wonderful, but no one has been willing to get specific and actually support any of its direct claims. Until now.
It takes that special combination of arrogance and ignorance to think anything Coulter said is defensible, so I suppose it’s not a huge surprise that our brave foolhardy contestant is Michael Egnor.
After professing his deep and entirely uncritical love of Ann Coulter and everything she has ever said, Egnor chooses the very first paragraph of the first chapter on evolution. He might as well, he thinks she’s “right about everything”.
Liberals’ creation myth is Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution, which is about one notch above Scientology in scientific rigor. It’s a make-believe story, based on a theory that is a tautology, with no proof in the scientist’s laboratory or the fossil record–and that’s after 150 years of very determined looking. We wouldn’t still be talking about it but for the fact that liberals think evolution disproves God.
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Posted in Evolution at 10:12 am by nemo
David Sloan Wilson has to deserve the booby prize award for naivete about Darwinism. The attempt to use ‘evolution’ as an idea will not work if you make Darwinian assumptions.
I wish Huffpost would give equal time to some decent critics of Darwinism.
Talk of formulating public policy from an evolutionary perspective raises the specter of “Social Darwinism”, a term associated with past efforts to justify social inequality in terms of the “survival of the fittest”. Social Darwinism has been used to justify some very nasty actions — not just in Nazi Germany, but in England and the United States. Before we rush to blame evolution, however, consider that these same nasty actions have been justified in other ways throughout history, such as nationalism and the religious principle of divine right. Consider also that the term “social engineering” has acquired a creepy reputation in all its forms, including the kind of brainwashing inspired by the “blank slate” tradition of behaviorism.
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Preserving 4 Percent of the Ocean Could Protect Most Marine Mammal Species, Study Finds
ScienceDaily (Aug. 26, 2011) — Preserving just 4 percent of the ocean could protect crucial habitat for the vast majority of marine mammal species, from sea otters to blue whales, according to researchers at Stanford University and the National Autonomous University of Mexico.
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Mind-Altering Microbes: Probiotic Bacteria May Lessen Anxiety and Depression
ScienceDaily (Aug. 29, 2011) — Probiotic bacteria have the potential to alter brain neurochemistry and treat anxiety and depression-related disorders according to research published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
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Bilingual Babies’ Vocabulary Linked to Early Brain DifferentiationScienceDaily (Aug. 29, 2011) — Babies and children are whizzes at learning a second language, but that ability begins to fade as early as their first birthdays.
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Black Death Bacterium Identified: Genetic Analysis of Medieval Plague Skeletons Shows Presence of Yersinia Pestis Bacteria
ScienceDaily (Aug. 29, 2011) — A team of German and Canadian scientists has shown that today’s plague pathogen has been around at least 600 years.
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Sutureless Method for Joining Blood Vessels InventedScienceDaily (Aug. 28, 2011) — Reconnecting severed blood vessels is mostly done the same way today — with sutures — as it was 100 years ago, when the French surgeon Alexis Carrel won a Nobel Prize for advancing the technique. Now, a team of researchers at the Stanford University School of Medicine has developed a sutureless method that appears to be a faster, safer and easier alternative.
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Published on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 by CommonDreams.org
Sun and Sanity
by Ralph Nader
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/08/30
This is the second week of protests, led by Bill McKibben, in front of the White House demanding that President Barack Obama reject a proposed 1700 mile pipeline transporting the dirtiest oil from Alberta, Canada through fragile ecologies down to the Gulf Coast refineries. One thousand people will be arrested there from all fifty states before their demonstration is over. The vast majority voted for Obama and they are plenty angry with his brittleness on environmental issues in general.
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Ray McGovern: The Rise of Another CIA Yes Man
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/08/29-7
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Dean Baker: President Obama’s Job Creation Mirage
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/08/29-6
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Medea Benjamin: Ten Reasons to Move Cheney’s Book to the Crime Section
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/08/29-3
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Pricing Pollution: Will Australia’s Move to Tackle Climate Change Work?
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How Dangerous is This Moment? The Age of Greed and Financial Domination
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‘Fracking’: Rock Fracturing’s Relation to Quakes
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Governor: Vermont Seeing Worst Flooding in a Century
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Cantor: No Disaster Relief Funding For Hurricane Irene Without Budget Cuts
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Windfalls of War: Pentagon’s No-Bid Contracts Triple in 10 Years of War
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“Planetary Emergency”: Hansen Joins Tar Sands Protest
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Posted in General at 1:29 pm by nemo
Bellah’s book (discussed today) has an obvious advantageover mine, on one level. My treatment is not about the ‘content’ but the overall dynamics, and that is abstract. The Axial Age chapter: I can see why people get confused on the subject of the Axial Age. And why the abstract dynamics approach in World History and The Eonic Effect leaves people non-plussed. But if you try to understand this phenomenon without any of the tools needed to understand evolutionary aspects you will zero in in confusion. You must understand the different levels at work, and not confuse the ‘System’ dynamics with the ‘Individual’ action that realizes that dynamics. And it is here that people simply fail to grasp what is going on with the Axial period. Christians think the Old Testament is a record of divine action. But that has confused the issue: we see a macro effect, and a micro effect of those who realize that macro mystery in practive. The result has all the limitations of the human agents at work in creating something new. This double aspect is what confuses people: either it is an issue of revelation, the ‘word of god’, or it is all nonsense. The dynamics of the Axial Age can give us a hint of what is really going on.
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Posted in Booknotes, The Axial Age at 1:16 pm by nemo
I just wrote an initial take on Bellah’s new book Religion in Human Evolution. I promised to return to the review (if Amazon posts it) for upgrades over time. But I wanted to make an initial appraisal given the clear suspicion Bellah is being ‘bashful’ about Darwinism. I cannot figure out his views of Darwinism, which puts the whole book on hold, up in the air. A fascinating book in any case.
4.0 out of 5 stars Evolution and the Axial Age enigma, August 29, 2011
By John C. Landon “nemonemini” (New York City) – See all my reviews
(TOP 500 REVIEWER) Amazon Verified Purchase(What’s this?)
This review is from: Religion in Human Evolution: From the Paleolithic to the Axial Age (Hardcover)
This is a massive book I am still studying, one filled with some novel perspectives, among them that rarity: scholarly acknowledgment of the existence of the Axial Age. There is so much that is of fascinating interest that one could/should resolve to spend a good period of time going over the rich details. But there is an instant problem here. For better or for worse, if you mention ‘evolution’ and the ‘Axial Age’ in one breath, it is easy to close in for the ‘kill’ if author’s motives are murky and/or he is too ‘scare d cat’ to challenge Darwin. So for that reason, suspicions aroused, I can easily begin a preliminary review of the overall aspect of the book, a review to be revised and extended perhaps.
The book deserves commendation for even mentioning this data on the Axial Age. And it is good to raise the issue, but fatal also. As most scholarly propagandists probably realize, to even mention the subject means the jig is up, make as many mistakes as you wish, but the data will come to demand a real analysis, one that will endanger current paradigms. So in that sense I praise this fine book for its lesser audacity: the jig is up, and it is only a matter of time before the question of the Axial Age and its revolutionary implications become clear.
I could be wrong. Karen Armstrong almost succeeded in completely asphiaxiating this topic, and as a result the jig wasn’t up.
It is almost taboo to even refer to this phenomenon. But unfortunately, as with Karen Armstrong’s The Great Transformation, one is reminded of the classic barb: ‘we have not come to praise Caesar, but to bury him’. The scholarly community, if it can’t suppress this data, will absorb it into something that will confuse it completely, as with Karen Armstrong’s book, a tour de force that summoned up the ‘Axial Age’ and left the subject beyond recognition.
Bellah’s book seems like a more sophisticated version of this tactic. Is this fair?
The first question must be, has Bellah perused John Landon’s book World History And the Eonic Effect: Civilization, Darwinism, and Theories of Evolution Fourth Edition and resolved to produce his own take and/or save the world from that underground text, and without any reference to it (and such reference being the end of one’s public reputation)? It is hard to believe the author is not aware of, and wary of, that book with its comprehensive view of the Axial Age. Which book demands a larger pattern of ‘axial ages’, a new view of historical evolution, evolution in history, and thence of the descent of man, and, yes, the ‘evolution’ of religion, which is not Darwinian. The Axial Age shows us precisely the kind of ‘macrovevolutionary’ process at work in both the evolution of religion and of civilization. You cannot compromise with Darwinism once you grasp what is happening with the Axial Age.
And this makes us ask, what is Bellah’s take on Darwinism? Examine this book and you will have a hard time knowing where Bellah stands on the question of Darwin’s theory: plus and minus are most cleverly braided together in one unified sophistry of scholarly legerdemain, far more polished than Karen Armstrong’s idiotic venture here.
I can see Bellah’s problem: evolutionary psychology is a hopeless mess on religion, but to say so is risky, and indirect methods are required. I can’t really determine his stance (there is even a reference to natural selection, which is fogged out), and that is unfortunate, because the suggestion is still left that in the final analysis the Axial Age is just a smorgasbord of cuteness, not the real insight into global teleological macroevolution that the data demands.
That’s thrown out as a caution as I continue to study the book, which is well worth reading, and which has many interesting takes. Unlike too many books on the Axial period, this one gives a real discussion of the Greek Axial, not shunting it to one side in a kind of ‘generalized age of revelation’ treatment of religion.
The real Axial Age is an elusive totalizing process that rises beyond religion to the whole question of civilization, and from there to the question of evolution as such. The data must force us to suspect that Darwinism is totally off the mark, and that real ‘evolution’ shows this kind of discontinuous near planetary top-down process that operates metagenetically. That is the kind of heresy that drives people to cover up what the Axial Age is showing us.
In the nonce, as I study this book further, it must be seen as a remarkable innovation (beyond that of WHEE already cited) attempting to do justice the original insights of Karl Jaspers (who did not however seem to understand his own book on the Axial period). No doubt the impudence of Bellah in writing a book on the Axial period will cause the book to be ignored. We will see. In the worst case it will join the underground of post-Jasperian historiographies.
Let me say that harsh judgments here can be unfair. Grasping the Axial Age is NOT easy, and requires a new mode of thought. Bellah goes part way here, what more can we expect?
Much more to be said here: we can continue the discussion over time.
John Landon
World History and The Eonic Effect
Civilization, Darwinism, and Theories of Evolution.
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Posted in General at 11:58 am by nemo
Luke gave us this link today: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/how-to-lose-readers-without-even-trying/
We have been critical of Harris, but if anything that was because he is an intelligent liberal with broad views (I think) liable to annoit his eccentricities with that liberal cast.
His complaint about his readers is not surprising to us here: we are far more radical than Harris, and have driven away readers in droves with comments from the left. That is less true recently, I should note (and the reverse often happens: we get temporary visits from many on the Marxist far left), and I feel a change in the air. Or else, there are no more people to drive away. A similar effect occurred here with a Dalai Lama critique, losing a host of readers, but that also seems to have changed.
One strategy has been to distinguish ‘left’ and ‘ultra far left’, the latter often being a critique of the left. That leaves many idiots with their heads tied in knots, failing to flee in panic. Clever, eh?
Harris shows how he thinks here: he obviously detests Ayn Rand, says so, then seems to compromise by calling himself a libertarian. That kind of ‘tringulation’ may be deliberate.
I am NOT a libertarian, but I am happy to consider the criticisms of the state libertarians propose. Libertarians created a novel sophistry that was uncomfortable with the leftist demands for freedom, and wanted their own phony brand on the right.
This junk is ancient. Read Karl Polanyi’s The Great Transformation, and the debate over welfare in the late eighteenth century (a debate that goes back to Elizabethan times, or before), and then the Spencer environment of a few generations later. Those who criticize the State forget (want to forget) that the nexus of capitalism will take its place, as the Perverted State. So a libertarian critique of the State, to be honest, should demand the abolition of the State behind the State of capitalist gangsters, Wall Street hyenas, and the rest of it. Capitalism generates the worst form of the State, so I am not sure how these libertarian kooks consider themselves so insightful. Mostly, of course, they are Wall street hyenas, or their fronts, who attack the State to promote the State behind the State, capitalist domination.
And so…
Let’s see how many idiots we drive away with this! Will report on the morrow.
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Posted in General at 11:28 am by nemo
http://darwiniana.com/2011/08/28/harris-911-and-setting-the-record-straight/#comment-358913
Luke Rondinaro said,
August 28, 2011 at 8:49 pm ·
I think you’re correct in saying this.
For as much as Harris may be maligned by Chris Hedges at Truthdig(see:http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/fundamentalism_kills_20110726/ & http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/response-to-chris-hedges/) for claiming what he has, if Harris didn’t make the kinds of allusions he’s made about Islam and terrorism among others matters (see also: http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/response-to-controversy2/), there wouldn’t be any need for Hedges and others to target his comments for criticism.
Not to be outdone in criticism received by Hedges & Co., Harris has decided to tackle economic inequality in the U.S., in light of Warren Buffett’s NYT editorial. Take a look! …
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/how-rich-is-too-rich/
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/how-to-lose-readers-without-even-trying/
His readership is not happy!
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Posted in General at 11:25 am by nemo
http://darwiniana.com/2011/08/22/comments-on-free-will-discussion/#comment-358858
Interesting enough. But the issue of free will is not some finished theory but a ‘very bad feeling’ about physics, and the deceptive way it claims a totality of understanding.
Two great thinkers rushed to warn scientists here, Kant and Schopenhauer, the latter actually setting an independent category of the ‘will’ beyond the space/time causal nexus. (Schopenhauer, however, was not as clear a supporter of free will as Kant, the distinction betwen ‘will’ and ‘free will’ being fundamental to his thought).
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Posted in General at 11:19 am by nemo
http://darwiniana.com/2008/12/23/nietzsche-evolution-and-the-superman/#comment-358910
This post had the link to the right book on this, if the commentator could check it out.
Academic Nietzscheans are not to be trusted here in their whitewash of that philosopher.
http://www.amazon.com/Nietzsche-Prophet-Nazism-Superman-Unveiling-Doctrine/dp/1420841211/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230060458&sr=1-1
Busycuttingcrap said,
August 28, 2011 at 12:49 pm · Edit
“The idea of breeding some ‘beast of prey’ beyond ethics and filled with a will to power to exterminate the remnant is an idea so dangerously crackpot that it should be grounds for the immediate disavowal of the whole Darwinian misunderstanding that led to it. ”
Wow, what an amateur and laughable article… Hint: if you are going to criticize someone, make sure you are criticizing them for views they actually held. You clearly have either never read, or didn’t understand a word of, anything Nietzsche ever wrote.
nemo said,
August 29, 2011 at 9:57 am · The question of what Nietzsche really meant has been systematically concealed by scholars. A close study shows some surprising facts.
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Posted in General at 11:14 am by nemo
The connection between Darwinism and capitalism is direct: the ideology of markets first proposed by Adam Smith (or, rather, his prededessors) suggested that random processes could generate order of some kind. And this idea became the backdrop to the similar sense that natural selection left to itself would produce biological order. Part of the reason for all this lay in the difficulty of really understanding evolutionary dynamics, and the clutching at straws, via economic ideology, to explain it. The obvious resembalnce of jungle conflict and market competition was part of the confusion.
The catch here is that the real dynamics of evolution is something totally different.
Eric Holloway
96.255.15.177 Submitted on 2011/08/29 at 12:21 am
Can you expand more on your thoughts regarding the connection between Darwinism and capitalism?
There is something like natural selection at work within capitalism, so I think there is probably a better form of economy than capitalism. This would be an interesting article to try to write, thanks for the thought.
Can you expand more on your thoughts regarding the connection between Darwinism and capitalism?
There is something like natural selection at work within capitalism, so I think there is probably a better form of economy than capitalism. This would be an interesting article to try to write, thanks for the thought.
Eric Holloway
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Posted in General at 10:58 am by nemo
The liberal religious and astrology
I would be wary of trying to analyze this finding off the cuff, but I think that it is important to keep in mind that astrology, and more general belief systems considered fringe, are not the same. But, unfortunately, in part because of the New Age movement, but more the open diversity of secular culture, astrology tends to sneak into many New Age belief systems, where it should have no place. Sufis, for example, have a vast extra-scientific set of beliefs, but astrology they tended strongly to reject (check out Idries Shah on the subject). Indian religion, unfortunately, has its own astrological tradition. And Xtianity, similarly, was always consistently critical of astrology. So the complaint here, and the research, is evidently really about post-theocratic diversity of opinion.
In any case, we should be wary of astrology making a comeback. It will pass via the Huffpost idiocy pages on religion to a new standard of acceptance, along with the long list of other crap now flooding the extra-papal system.
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