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New atheism worse than old…?

October 24th, 2012 · 2 Comments


I think the new atheists fail to see themselves in action. This debate between old and atheism is real: when I was in college, all the pressure was already there to become an atheist. I read many books of Russell, Nietzsche, and the rest of it. But even then the pressure to ‘believe’ as an atheist in a cult was absent. I would never have felt any contradiction to have at once embraced theism and atheism in different weeks, and, over time, the atheist position simply follows (naive) theism in falling by the wayside.
Who the hell wants to associate with a fussy club of ‘new atheist’ fanatics enforcing discipline on a whole world view of idiotic positions, like the denial of buddhist enlightenment (what to say of the prejudice against fellow atheist buddhists), and the Dawkins ‘group leader’ BS from a smooth-voiced huckster who has made a bundle from pied piper business practice (the science, he must know, is harebrained)… ETC…
Result: saying goodbye to ‘atheism’.
The new atheist movement is, as I can tell, unique in its stupidity: a horde of old atheists (including, amazingly, Paul Kurtz!!!) are de facto heretics, and ostracized by the new style of doctrinal conformity demanded of adherents. \\

You know what? Fuck you, goodbye.
And, of course, the old religionists would be delighted to the new and old atheists in a new religious war.

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2 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Daniel // Oct 25, 2012 at 6:12 am

    I couldn’t agree more. The old atheists were individuals thinking for themselves. Some of them were intellectual giants who thought deeply and seriously about life. Now atheism is mostly fashionable. Most people I’ve met who identify themselves as “atheist” seem to have never really pondered the essential questions that the old atheists did.

    As for Dawkins, he seems like an intelligent fellow, but he really pisses me off with his missionary brand of atheism. He doesn’t try to engage in real debate with the religious people whom he interviews. No, he approaches the conversation from the standpoint “I already know I’m right and you’re wrong, and I’m going to try and show you how stupid you are.” Who elected him pope of the new church of atheism anyway?

  • 2 Darwiniana » Eonic effect versus ‘design inference’ // Oct 25, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    […] http://darwiniana.com/2012/10/24/new-atheism-worse-than-old/ A good comment on the ‘new atheism’ question. I was not promoting ‘theism’ in response to ‘atheism’: I am none of the above, if only because too much theistic belief is incoherent. It is not really ‘atheism’ to challenge theistic gibberish. If we examine the eonic effect we see directly that a ‘higher power’ is operating over world history, as the Israelites sensed. That perception has been turned into a theistic mess, missing the original point. \ […]

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