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Munzerian Xtianity: picking a fight with deadbeat cancerated rightwing ‘Xtianity’

December 12th, 2014 · No Comments

The blockquote post below is from The Gurdjieff Con.

Given the strange circumstance of modern religion and secularism I have been proposing a new abstraction, possibly realizable, that of a radical Munzerian Xtianity as a challenge to rightwing Xtianity, and as an experiment in mediating harsh opposites like marxism and religion. The questions of theism/atheism are out of date obsessions.

A radically new version of reformation Xtianity can take up the kind of challenge bungled by the new atheists and come to evaluate all ideas of divinity, adopt a dialectical inspection of theism/atheism, study the the continuation of the Reformation in figures such as Kant, Hegel, review the positivism and scientism of the marxists, and ask why Feurbachian atheism is so dominant when a host of more robust foundations could be found. Such a new church can enter directly into communist revolutionary activism, violent and/or nonviolent (the Reformation was not a non-violent movement) mediate capitalism with a successor.
In a larger framework a new religion can be an ex-religion, and generate a political movement as it moves slightly to the background of this very movement.
The questions of theology could yield slightly to a broader study of world religion, and help the legacy of buddhism reach the future after its inevitable decline its task done.
There are lots of issues here. And a need for a feisty movement to take on legacy Xtianity on the right, a total mess getting worse and worse by the year.
What does the movement do about the Pope, sure to excommunicate the movement? The Catholic Church, defeated in the Reformation has no further authority as a religious hierarchy and is basically a Protestant church at this point. So there is nothing to discuss, save the probable necessity for dissolving the papacy once and for all.


My study of history in WHEE has a lot of insights into the history of religion, and the issue of the Axial period and modernity is one of the most confusing. The issue requires a careful study of the whole model, however.

I am not promoting Xtianity here, but it remains true that the only religious entity given the macro transformation effect (so visible in the Axial Age) in the modern transition is Xtianity in the Reformation. That is the result of the sudden restriction of parallel emergence to a single track in modern times.

The Protestant Reformation creates a form of Xtianity that starts to dissolve, as it were, and in the seventeenth century we see the system moving into a new set of positions. That’s the reason for the confusion over the secular in modern times. A close look shows that buddhism rapidly becomes an object of study and diffusion, as if this macro system were trying to correct its flaws.

So the question of these religions in the future is going to problematical. Students of the New Age spectrum could care less about the Reformation, and I am not promoting that. But the issue can help New Agers understand how their movements tend to stall and not go anywhere.

A good example here is to see that New Age movements are lucky to have fifty thousand members, while in the past generation or so Xtianity has acquired ten million converts. This situation requires careful thought.

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