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Post-Modern Science: The Illusion of Consciousness Sees Through Itself    | Evolution News

September 29th, 2017 · 2 Comments

Source: Post-Modern Science: The Illusion of Consciousness Sees Through Itself    | Evolution News

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  • 1 Jen // Sep 29, 2017 at 8:47 am

    Religious critics at the Disco Institute are naive, but these cognitive scientists and philosophers are much worse; I’m constantly surprised at the level of shoddy thinking that is present at what are supposedly the best universities and institutes. What exactly is “naturalism” and “physicalism?” Our fundamental theory of “matter,” QM, doesn’t yet give us clear answers here. There are something like 7 or 8 main interpretations of QM and they are associated with vastly different ontologies. Given this fact, what does it really mean to say brain = mind?

    I hate New Agey quantum mysticism as much as anybody, but, if nothing else, QM non-locality does indicate that the naive Newtonian conception of particles being self-contained atomized units with no relation to the larger spacetime framework is wrong. Even if these people say brain=mind, they still have to contend with the can of worms that is opened when trying to understand the relationship between the particles that make up the brain and spacetime. I suspect the next Copernican revolution will be when someone realizes just how far the rabbit hole goes when exploring the mind’s relationship with spacetime.

  • 2 nemo // Sep 29, 2017 at 10:53 am

    good comment…we have often cited the Disco group here because of their cogent critiques of darwinism but their larger perspective is flawed by a crypto-religious bias. The issue of consciousness is intractable and muddled by an inadequate ‘spiritual/material’ duality. Part of the problem, reflected in the suspicions generated by spooky physics findings (or failure to find), is that ‘self’ is somehow beyond space-time…

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